On Saturday 31 December 2005 5:01 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>
> 2) I have added cs:contributor to handle things like
translators. But
> as I've looked into this, it can get a
little tricky. For example, say
> you have an edited collected
of someone's original writings; like the
> Walter Benjamin book
I just ordered. In that case, Benjamin is the
> primary
creator, and the editors then are secondary contributors. E.g
>
the hierarchy is somewhat conditional. Indeed, one might say
editors
> are always secondary, but they serve as if they were
primary in the
> absence of a proper author. Am not really sure
how to deal with this
> one. One option is to just list some
rules that implementers ought to
> follow; e.g. a hierarchy of
contributorship.
>
Bruce,
I have looked up my Chicago based style guide regarding the handling of editors. I have notice that these book are not good at providing a set of principles or rules or rather that rules are somewhat arbitrary and have exceptions. Anyway some relevant examples it discuses -
.... an edited or translated work in which the author's name is mentioned in the tile. Here the author's name as the first item is omitted, although tit might properly be inserted even through it is not on the title page -
1. The works of Shakespear, ed Alexander Pope (London: printed for Jacob Tonson in the Stand, 1725), 6:20
Although the foregoing arrangement , which gives the editor's name following the title, is most commonly used for this kind of work, in a paper dealing with the work of Pope it would be permissable to give his name first, followed by ed.:
1. Alexander Pope, ed. The works of Shakespear (London: printed for Jacob Tonson in the Stand, 1725), 6:20
Now these are Chicago 'rules' so they might not apply to APA.
I have collected the full Oxford uni library catalogue record -
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Author |
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Uniform Title |
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Title |
The works of Shakespear. : In six volumes. Collated and corrected by the former editions, by Mr. Pope.. |
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Publisher |
London: : Printed for Jacob Tonson in the Strand., MDCCXXV.. |
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Description |
6 v. : ports. ; 40. |
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Notes |
A reissue of the Tonson edition of 1723, with a cancel general title page and the original title pages to volumes 1-6 bearing the imprint: 'Printed for Jacob Tonson, 1723.' Pagination: v.1: [2], xli, [13], 563, [1] p.; v.2: 656 p.; v.3: [4], 499, [1] p.; v.4: 547, [1] p.; v.5: 599, [1] p.; v.6: 591, [37] p. General title page printed in red and black. With 'Some account of the life, &c. of Mr. William Shakespeare. Written by Mr. Rowe.' With a list of subscribers. Woodcut head-pieces and initials. Includes index at end of v.6. |
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References |
ESTC, N26060 |
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Other Names |
Pope,
Alexander, 1688-1744, |
But these question remains how to deal with it in CSL? If this record has been downloaded from the library and you do nothing to it ‘William Shakespeare’ would appear as author. And you would not want to remove William Shakespeare’ as author form you DB entry.
It seems to me that you need some flags or settings with either, or both, the document version of the database reference, or for individual citations, like 'Suppress Author', 'Place Editor as first element'. I think you have expressed the desire to dispense with such flags if possible.
Some options that do not use flags.
Allow the user to to modify the render-as field of Author for the document version of the reference. This would generally just be copied from the database Author field. If the user deletes the text so the entry is blank. Have rule if render-as is blank do not insert the element.
However 'Place Editor as first element' seems to be a genuine user selection for how they reference is formatted so I do not see how you can escape the use of a user set flag.